No, not dead yet...
Mar. 8th, 2004 09:50 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
bodldopsJust forgetting to update this thing...
Been a busy week, oh yes it has. Got a job review, even though when I was hired they said I wouldn't get one... evidently I'm an outstanding tech (WHOOPIEEEE!) and a wonderful person to work with... but I'm not eligible for a raise, since I'm a temp. Botheration.
Three midterms, which have so fare resulted with two B's (still got A's overall)... more botheration. I should be acing these classes. Ah well, the quarter's almost over (hooray!), and then I've got a week to de-stress.
I've actually started a half-decent original fic, which I am majorly proud of. I have a pretty good idea of where it's going, I just have to figure out how to get there without crashing somewhere along the way. Easier said than done, methinks.
*glowers at the PPC board* I didn't comment during the RW thing, and I wasn't going to comment during this... but I'm tired of being quiet. I won't post on the PPC board about this nonsense. When Jay and Acacia ran the board (and the PPC), most (99%) of the posts were fic- or Tolkien- related. now, it's rare to find a good story post. It seemse that entirely too many people are eager to flame anyone that even a marginal PPCer points out as a Suvian, as someone who flamed them, as... anything. There doesn't seem to be much waiting for proof, or even rational discussion... just a general grabbing of flamethrowers. I think that's very sad... I used to go to the PPC board for mature conversation and a bit of sanity in an insane arena. We used to call the Suvians and their packs of friends "Rabid poodles". Lately... _we've_ been the rabid poodles. I don't flame. If I really think that I have absolutely nothing nice to say to an author, I just report them (I always have at least something nice and/or helpful to say to suvians... they're just beginning writers, most of them) for whatever it is that got my goat. Is that really such a novel concept? Botheration. Now we have a new person to harrass and harry until they run off crying (which seems to be some people's aim in life). Why? They're just kids. Ignore them - that means no posts at all, not even ones talking about how much you wish they'd go away.
Okay, I'll shut up now.
*beams* I pilled a cat today in under two minutes! I rock so much...
Been a busy week, oh yes it has. Got a job review, even though when I was hired they said I wouldn't get one... evidently I'm an outstanding tech (WHOOPIEEEE!) and a wonderful person to work with... but I'm not eligible for a raise, since I'm a temp. Botheration.
Three midterms, which have so fare resulted with two B's (still got A's overall)... more botheration. I should be acing these classes. Ah well, the quarter's almost over (hooray!), and then I've got a week to de-stress.
I've actually started a half-decent original fic, which I am majorly proud of. I have a pretty good idea of where it's going, I just have to figure out how to get there without crashing somewhere along the way. Easier said than done, methinks.
*glowers at the PPC board* I didn't comment during the RW thing, and I wasn't going to comment during this... but I'm tired of being quiet. I won't post on the PPC board about this nonsense. When Jay and Acacia ran the board (and the PPC), most (99%) of the posts were fic- or Tolkien- related. now, it's rare to find a good story post. It seemse that entirely too many people are eager to flame anyone that even a marginal PPCer points out as a Suvian, as someone who flamed them, as... anything. There doesn't seem to be much waiting for proof, or even rational discussion... just a general grabbing of flamethrowers. I think that's very sad... I used to go to the PPC board for mature conversation and a bit of sanity in an insane arena. We used to call the Suvians and their packs of friends "Rabid poodles". Lately... _we've_ been the rabid poodles. I don't flame. If I really think that I have absolutely nothing nice to say to an author, I just report them (I always have at least something nice and/or helpful to say to suvians... they're just beginning writers, most of them) for whatever it is that got my goat. Is that really such a novel concept? Botheration. Now we have a new person to harrass and harry until they run off crying (which seems to be some people's aim in life). Why? They're just kids. Ignore them - that means no posts at all, not even ones talking about how much you wish they'd go away.
Okay, I'll shut up now.
*beams* I pilled a cat today in under two minutes! I rock so much...
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Re: Bodldops is right though...
Date: 2004-03-19 09:00 am (UTC)I'm sorry; I should have been clearer. Thoughtful, polite yet honest discussions are only one of the many reasons that I come to the PPC message board. I was introduced to this board through Megan@Midnight's PotC PPC fic, and I quickly became immersed in the Original Series. PPCing is, and always will be, the primary reason that I frequent the board; the discussions are just a nice bonus.
Unfortunately, there have been calls to back down on such subjects, and they have been ignored. Entirely.
If they have been made, then they definitely have been ignored. I haven't seen anyone criticize the number of very OT posts on the message board, but perhaps, as you said, I haven't been around long enough.
I do agree that these days there are far fewer on topic posts than I would like. I think the PPC board should be just that--for PPCing or for topics closely related to PPCing. It's difficult, though...how can you propose cutting back on, say, birthday or "I need hugs!" posts (which have increased, I think, at a greater rate than the serious debates and which also take up a large amount of space) without sounding really mean?
It would be nice if people stuck more to PPCing. I won't dispute that. Still, that was not the major issue at hand, as I read Bodldop's post. What concerns me most is not that Bodldops is deprecating that aspect of the board, but rather that the PPC seems harsher, more flame-happy and impulsive than it was previously in Bodldops' view. Is it, really? Because in the five or so months I've been on the board, I haven't seen an increase in the grabbing of flamethrowers.
Lia hasn't run off crying, no, but what about Red Wolf? You can't take one case and assume it applies for all of them.
No, but I was addressing Bodldops statement of, "Now we have a new person to harrass and harry until they run off crying (which seems to be some people's aim in life." The answer is, no. And, more generally, it's "not always." Not all of the people who come to the board are welcome; not all of the initially controversial posters are shunned. And for the record, I think the accusation that anyone on the PPC message board has the singular agenda of harassing to the point of tears any poster, Suvian or otherwise, is really unfair.
The truth is that I don't think that the RW thing was handled appropriately at all.
How do you think it should have been handled? I feel bad that she got flamed, but she didn't belong on the board, and she wasn't respectful. She was annoying. She was childish. She spammed the board when repeatedly told to stop. She refused to correct her grammar and spelling when told to do so. And then, when she was well aware that she did not have our favor, she announced, "I think I'll write a PPC spin-off!" I don't blame the PPCers for thinking that she was a troll--there was no indication to the contrary. Vanessa, who had experiences with trolls destroying other boards, came out and said that RW showed many identifying characteristics of trollishness. I know that people overreacted, but I think it was out of protectiveness for the board, not out of meanness or spite.
The other thing is, she was too young to be on this board. If, as she claimed, she really was nine, what in the world was she doing on a PG-13 site? That's what the Board Constitution says is our basic guideline...and it's not just about language or adult references, but maturity level. I'd rather have her banished with a "You're being immature--get off this board!" than permitted to post, and post, and post, all the while not contributing a speck to what the PPC stands for.