No, not dead yet...

[bodldops]

Just forgetting to update this thing...
Been a busy week, oh yes it has. Got a job review, even though when I was hired they said I wouldn't get one... evidently I'm an outstanding tech (WHOOPIEEEE!) and a wonderful person to work with... but I'm not eligible for a raise, since I'm a temp. Botheration.
Three midterms, which have so fare resulted with two B's (still got A's overall)... more botheration. I should be acing these classes. Ah well, the quarter's almost over (hooray!), and then I've got a week to de-stress.
I've actually started a half-decent original fic, which I am majorly proud of. I have a pretty good idea of where it's going, I just have to figure out how to get there without crashing somewhere along the way. Easier said than done, methinks.
*glowers at the PPC board* I didn't comment during the RW thing, and I wasn't going to comment during this... but I'm tired of being quiet. I won't post on the PPC board about this nonsense. When Jay and Acacia ran the board (and the PPC), most (99%) of the posts were fic- or Tolkien- related. now, it's rare to find a good story post. It seemse that entirely too many people are eager to flame anyone that even a marginal PPCer points out as a Suvian, as someone who flamed them, as... anything. There doesn't seem to be much waiting for proof, or even rational discussion... just a general grabbing of flamethrowers. I think that's very sad... I used to go to the PPC board for mature conversation and a bit of sanity in an insane arena. We used to call the Suvians and their packs of friends "Rabid poodles". Lately... _we've_ been the rabid poodles. I don't flame. If I really think that I have absolutely nothing nice to say to an author, I just report them (I always have at least something nice and/or helpful to say to suvians... they're just beginning writers, most of them) for whatever it is that got my goat. Is that really such a novel concept? Botheration. Now we have a new person to harrass and harry until they run off crying (which seems to be some people's aim in life). Why? They're just kids. Ignore them - that means no posts at all, not even ones talking about how much you wish they'd go away.

Okay, I'll shut up now.

*beams* I pilled a cat today in under two minutes! I rock so much...

Comments

Part Two of reply...

[araeph.livejournal.com]

Of course, the best alternative would probably have been to ignore her. I'll concede that. I started ignoring her when that was suggested, too. It's hard, though, when someone gets under your skin like that and is messing up a fun site that you frequent. Again, I'm not condoning the page-long threads that started from that, but I understand why it happened.

I did notice that, a few days after supposedly being banned, RW did make a brief appearance and we were promptly reminded to ignore her, which we did, except for a few curious boarders who hadn't been present when the incident had occurred. So, perhaps the PPC wasn't right in its first attempt to make her go away, but we learned from what had transpired previously and we took the appropriate measures.

Bottom line: I don't think that the majority of the PPC boarders deserves to be called "rabid poodles." At times we have lost our tempers, but we don't go and flame fics en masse*, and most of us try to offer constructive criticism before PPCing. (In fact, it's requisite in my department, unless someone else has offered concrit that has not been listened to.) And, on many occasions, we simply poke fun! For instance, I am rather partial to the "Let's fill in the story to go with the odd summary!" posts that go around - they're entertaining, they're not directly offensive, and they're not written out of bitterness.

That's what Jay and Acacia's work was like, wasn't it?

-Araeph, still waving the "Go PPC!" flag.

P.S. to Bodldops - I think that your message needs to be posted to the board, not just to your live journal. If there is a problem, all boarders should hear about it.

*=except when they're harmful trolls...the Lometir/Lomedil situation springs to mind.

Re: Part Two of reply...

[artemis85.livejournal.com]

When you ask about the flamethrowers, it depends. There are a few people who seem to like to flame. Of course, if they want to go flame, that's their own business, but reviewing with a flame and then citing the PPC as the instigator is unfair. This has happened, and it shouldn't. We're a diverse bunch, so if anyone decides to speak for all of us, they need to keep that in mind.

How did I think that the RW thing should have been handled? You hit on it yourself. She should have been completely ignored. Except for the PPCing bit, where someone should have stepped in and told her exactly what the problems were(which several people did do). Once she was being ignored, she went away. Problem solved.

I think setting an age limit for the boards wouldn't be an easy thing to do( as there are plenty of very intelligent kids out there). I agree that she didn't belong on the boards, but why she wasn't... that's beside the point.

Troll or not, the solution was the same. I don't have anything against people who did think that she was a troll, as she was very suspicious, but when people start breaking our own rules in response to a suspected troll...that's too much.

Yes, it is hard to ignore her at first, especially for some people, but since we're all mature people, shouldn't we be able to handle it?

That's what Bodldops was talking about when she said rabid poodles. That's about what happened with RW. I remember that I read several posts that were outright flames(and above a PG-13 rating, for that matter) before I stopped even keeping up with it. It bothered me a lot. It was that incident that brought on this image of 'flaming en masse' because that's what happened.

Yes, most people say that they're going to offer CC, and that's the good thing to do, but far too oftentimes CC is so snarky and resembles a flame more than anything. I actually don't think that people realize this, though.

This isn't a problem with everyone. I know that most people are quite helpful with their CC.

Basically, the RW thing on the board, along with a few other incidents is what brough this on, in addition to the general swamp of very OT topics.

And, on many occasions, we simply poke fun! For instance, I am rather partial to the "Let's fill in the story to go with the odd summary!" posts that go around - they're entertaining, they're not directly offensive, and they're not written out of bitterness.

That's what Jay and Acacia's work was like, wasn't it?

Those posts are fun, and have been going on for quite a while, and I'm having trouble seeing how they relate to this discussion, unless you're just pointing out the things that you like about the board that haven't changed.

Yes, that is what J&A's work was like. It's still up for everybody to read, and as I have said before, I'm a die-hard fan of theirs.

Yes, but that's getting off into an entire realm of discussion which is getting away from what we're talking about. Now that you've rephrased yourself, it sounds like you agree with our basic worries, we just differ some on opinions.

I do think that we can all get past this, and that the board isn't doomed, nor is it evil. I think we have a lot of newbie-enthusiasm, which can be a bit misdirected at times.

Also, the whole RW thing was just a fiasco, and I don't think anybody wants to repeat that(as hopefully it won't be). If they do, I suggest that we force them to watch the animated rendition of Lord of the Rings for 48 hours straight.